spooking/shying/rearing

sil · 23-10-2003, 01:09 PM

I will take it a step further, and say that the usual cause of a horse not wishing to go forwards is either the rider, or not enough trust in the rider.

Something to think about, and a solution in itself =)

~ Do as much as it takes, do as little as it takes. ~

Pepsea · 23-10-2003, 01:43 PM

thanx jo, i gont have a round ring were i agist, and i gont have a lundge line, but i will borrow one, thanx for the advice

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Pepsea · 23-10-2003, 01:47 PM

sil i dont think that is the problem, the day after i had the best ride, he was very responsive, forward and got the best canter transitions, and a very nice trot, went were i wanted him to go. he was a very good boy

if that was the problem, wouldnt it be all the time? and the day after he would still be the same?

maybe he is still testing me?

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TB4Me · 23-10-2003, 02:14 PM

be patient with the lunging idea, being a SB he may not have been taught to lunge so expect him to give you a lot of 'what the?' looks if he hasn't been lunged much before.......

Pepsea · 23-10-2003, 02:25 PM

he has been lunged in a round ring, but i dont think he has eva been on a lunge line, i wont lunge him untill sarah(arnie) comes, she is more experienced and will help me out, if he is unsure what is meant of him

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ashka · 23-10-2003, 04:44 PM

Hi Sil - I'd love you to expand upon your idea of a horse having trust in the rider.

Can I interpret this to mean trust in the rider's aids?

Also Cherrie, while you didn't say that you had whipped your horse (as in Shaylee's comment), to use a whip does not have to be seen as a negative. If you ride with a crop or dressage whip, then as long as you use it to reinforce your leg aids, it is an effective training tool. Of course it is not to be used as a punishement, merely as an annoyance to back up your lighter aids.

Personally, unless I felt extremely unsafe, I would not have gotten off the horse, as this could be interpreted by Pepper as a 'reward' for not going near the scary object. It doesn't take long for this to become a habit if the horse sees this as a way to get out of work. Having said that, always get off if you feel unsafe - no one ever got hurt by dismounting! Just use your common sense - which it sounds like you did Cherrie.

Pepsea · 23-10-2003, 07:18 PM

thanx ashka, yer i did get off as i felt it was unsafe earlier in the ride, but only got off to let my friend get on and see if she could do it, and she got off so i could bat bak on.

with shaylee's post it sounds like she was meaning kisking and whipping to make him do it.. and with her idea get off, everyone is telling me not to and shes tells me to.. and i feel like some people have said, it is telling him thats on, and hes won! and shaylee that will teach him to be naughty so i get off... two theorys, i will go with the stay on one!

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Arnie · 23-10-2003, 07:30 PM

I personally wouldn't get off unless it was un-believeably dangerous. If my horse tenses up like your pep did (I remember my last horse doing it too) I relax my body. (not meaning flop!) and the horse feels your relaxation. But you must "Think" relaxed too and he should do the same. Talk to him calmly too. Assure him its fine and he'll settle down and won't be as grumpy or scared. Don't get fustraited. He's a bub and he looks for your guidence. Even if it takes forever to get him past a certain something. Don't get off, or don't turn him away. Go through it calmly. You'll improve over time. Pepper is a lovely horse and he's really willing to learn so keep calm and he'll be great...

Sarah

~All time is wasted what is not spent with horses.~

Pepsea · 23-10-2003, 07:37 PM

thanx sarah, he is a lovley horse and he is a quick learner, 2days he went from hating the jumps and refusing and now he just loves to jump.. i will admit i go get pretty pissed off, no sormally i juts sit there, losen the reins, but dont let him eat, and just sit there patting him and calming him and my self down before trying again. normally works, after a rest he is normally more willing to do work for me

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Nikiwink · 23-10-2003, 07:49 PM

in regard to getting off...
most horses have more trust in you when you are on the ground - they can see you as well as hear you. If you place yourself near the scary object you can 'show' your horse its not so scary. - generally you can have a lot more control on the ground.

ie 'if your can't do something on the ground how can they do it when ridden' (and yes i know some horses are the reverse

)

(: Nikiwink