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HORSE  DISCUSSION FORUMS

Marianne

I was just thinking that this morning funnily enough. We have a bordering property and they have a handful of sheep. There have been many occasions when their sheepies have died and because their owners don't go down on a daily basis to check on them they end up laying in the paddock for a day or two. Or until one of us calls them to let them know. We've never seen them be fed, I think for the most part they live on the hay scraps some of the agistees throw over the fence.

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twotone

At skwl we had to do some work on the ariel culling
we had to choose sides we had done lots of expositions in the past this one most people were saying if they do have a problem why dont they cull from the ground? in the air they cant garantee a clean shoot from a moving platform on the ground they kind of can. my apinion is to put them down humanily like with the trankulisa guns or what eva they are called the ones that they use to put animals down.

Bucking mad

Not so IMO twotonw. My O/H is an experienced shooter and there is no way you can get close enough to garentee a clean shot on foot or vehicle. The only shot that is likely to be presented, is the butt, hardley opportunity for a clean kill. there is also the added problem that these areas are not accessible by foot or vehicle.

These guys don't just go in with the helicopter. it's a team of a spotter plane, the helicopter and sometime, if possible a ground team.
The spotter plane locates a herd and radio the position to the helicopter, who goes in and makes the culls, the spotter plane and ground crew make sure all no wounded animals are left and no mis mothered foals remain, as best they can, given the territory they are in.

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Kintara

There have been some terrible examples at aerial culling, so you can't really blame the 'animal libbers' wanting some controls in place. An aerial cull can do a lot more damage in a short amount of time than could a ground cull. So if aerial culling is just a major shoot fest as it has been seen in the past it makes for much larger numbers of animals injured and suffering. I realise it's necessary but there does need to be some accountability on it too. Thus probably why the RSPCA have called for a few changes.
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Danni

Bucking mad

But the major problem and the reason for ariel culls is the innaccesability of the location.

Firstly they can't get close enough to make a clean kill, and secondly, locating injured animals is incredibly hard on foot as, even injured, some can move far quicker than a person on foot or motoerbike.

And this is'nt to do damage just for the hell of it, it is to control numbers as they are overpopulating themselves and thus dergding the land and affecting themselves and other animals. Would ppl really prefer to see them starve to death when feed becomes insifficient to suststain them?

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Kintara

I agree it's necessary, but I just think the RSPCA is making sure a repeat of the past isn't going to happen. Culling any animals is never a pleasant job but has to be done as you say to stop them all starving.
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Danni

Arnie

I think the shooters themselves need better training if they cannot get a clean shot but they are only human and if they wrongly shoot a horse it should quickly be distroyed and not left like they have in the past.
Also its an expensive practice but an important one and a lead bullet is the cheapest option. Atleast then they'd have more money to put into better training and gear to make it as painless and quick as possible for the horses.

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sva666

IMO i hate killing horses full stop.....

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Ozzies_Girl

It's neccessary in alot of situations Sarah for the well being of the horses. I was talking the other day to some one who used to be involved with aerial culling and even he said he didn't like the effectiveness of it.

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Flicka

im just sitting here shaking my head , i know its nessasary ,beter then dying of starvation, and i also would like to think the blokes doing this ,could do it with one bullet one kill.
heres me ,some one who wouldnt mind a brumby ,finding them for $500+ ,i mean if people are that desperate to get rid of these horses,why dont they work out a way ,that people like me can get one ,make it easier ,not harder.
im sure im not the only one that would like a brumby ,if there is a few people,work out what the costs are for transport ,halter breaking,ect ,and work out a price.
it might be more ,but if theres a few more people ,surely the price would drop.
if it gives the horse a beter chance........