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Old 03-09-2008, 07:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The story is this due to quite a few symptoms usually associated with ulcers the vet placed roly on Omoguard for three weeks at 5ml a day. He has finished this three days ago and I put him on the maintenance dose of 1ml a day as the vet had suggested.

Well today he was back to square one almost, not a bad but hadnt eaten all his hay or feed, didnt want me doing up his girth, grooming him touching his belly etc. When I rode him he freaked out at a pony, he is normally not fazed by anything and nearly threw me off. I jumped off him and he took off.

Was sweating profusely when I got back on and rode him so it looks like the ulcers are back. Wasnt that interested in his feed again.

Anyone WITH EXPERIENCE IN ULCER CARE/TREATMENT got any suggestions.

I put him back on a higher dose and I'm ringing the vet tomorrow.
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Old 03-09-2008, 07:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i went to a john Khonke seminar a couple of years, ago and he was saying something about banana's when they go black and the inside is slimy, the slime, Ithink, is a good ulcer teatment. Contact him for more details, I think there is a link on stockies, and he will give you more info.
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Some horses require a lot longer course of treatment to solve the ulcers and will be prone to recurrence. Your boy may just need longer than the usual course.

I have also seen cases that can never completely come off the ulcerguard because they recurr. Speak to your vet and see if he has any other opinions on the matter.
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only going by what I've been told..

but Ulcergard is very expensive and the main ingredient is WheyPowder,

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which you can buy from your Stockfeeders far far cheaper.

I use it..and I've had great results

best of luck with your horse

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my pony had ulcers.
we put her on the powder and it saved her we did try bananas but didnt work as such, she had a bad case that she would severly suffer if not on the powder soo yeah
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I have an ulcer suffer too. He was put on Gastrozol at first then once the course was over, I put him on slippery elm powder. I make sure his hard feeds are wet. *touch wood* he hasnt had any since Feb/March.

I also have found that If i put him in a certian paddock here, it flares up an attack.
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only going by what I've been told..

but Ulcergard is very expensive and the main ingredient is WheyPowder,

Whey-Powder - Google Search

which you can buy from your Stockfeeders far far cheaper.

I use it..and I've had great results

best of luck with your horse

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Ulcerguard is a medication that contains ranitidine. It's the same drug that's in Zantac for humans.

Gastrozole contains the drug omeprazole.

Omeprazole and rantidine work in slightly different ways to lower the amount of acid produced in the stomach. Reducing the acid levels in the stomach can help the ulcer to heal.

You might be thinking of Gastrocoat that is made by Kohnke's Own. This contains whey. It doesn't contain any drugs that help reduce acid production.
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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andrea i had roly on slippery elm powder when he got here as the trainer said he would get ulcers all the time from the high grain they were feeding him. i feed 1/3 of a cup each day and he was fine. you can get it from the chemist oppisite woolies in northam, they ordered me a 1kg for a bout 80.00 called wattlegrove slippery elm powder..

highly recomended, i also feed it to colic affected horses as my vet in perth was into natural remedies, and it works.

try it....
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Yeah will go and get some he was feral today. It was very nearly a very nasty accident. Thats not like him at all nothing fazes him normally. He reared straight up and swung around apparently reared twice but I dont remember lol. I lost my stirrup but managed to stop him but he started to jack up and buck so I thought best thing to get off him as soon as I could stop him. but as I swung my leg over he bucked and I kicked him in the rump I fell backwards and he reared up I and the people watching thought he was going to come down on top of me.

I got back on him after that and he was just full on. Covered in white sweat but the time I had trotted him around the track.

Poor thing.
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I started an old mare of mine on Omaguard at about the same time as you started yours Simbin. She scours dreadfully each winter and displays all ulcer type symptoms but has no envronmental, stress or feed conditions that would make me think ulcers. Anyway - on the 2nd day the scouring stopped, within 5 days her spirits lifted and apetite returned. I finished a 2 week course and am now trialling her on Kohnke's Gastrocoat - only because she has to return to my mums who can cope with administering powder, but not paste. Anyway - a week on Gastrocoat and no signs of the scouring returning.

I would say put him back on the full dose for another couple of weeks and give the ulcers a good chance of healing. I have also been feeding a lot of lucerne.
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