Originally Posted by Fe
Woki, You are brave posting that reciepe on here. John will not be impressed unless you have his permission, plus it isant really fair that many of us have had to pay for it and you have just given it to thousands for free.
I am not sure why it isnt fair - the recipe (if it is his) has been published in public places on the internet before - here is just one that I discovered .- ** Sand Colic Remedy ** - Horse Health
It has also been told to me by clients of mine who used it and their horses got sick - I needed to know what was given to treat the horse afterwards.
As an aside - it goes against the ethos of veterinarians to have "secret" or "pay for recipe" medicines - the profession lives by an ethos of open discussion and information about new, current or different ways to treat animals - that way horse welfare is improved and treatments can be tested independently and under scrutiny. It helps prevent the "snake oil" sellers of the world from ripping people off. If people ask for "my recipe" for treating horses - I give them the information freely - if they want to use the information then thats fine by me. If they want me to treat their horses then I charge for it - but the knowledge that I have and use is public knowledge for all to see and use.
I am pretty sure that the recipe (if it is Johns) that I have posted cannot be patented, nor could it be copyrighted - but I am not an expert in this area - if John is concerned he can contact me and demonstrate his patent or copyright and the registration details of his remedy and I will happily remove my post with an apology.
What I would also be interested in is if he or someone else could perhaps then provide some evidence based medicine and proper data that supports the claims of effectiveness for the drench. I am always looking for better ways to treat horses - I have an open mind and if it works as his website suggests then maybe I need to change my approach. It would be unprofessional of me if I was made aware of a better, tried and tested/proven treatment for colic/sand and I didn't use it - I might even be open to being sued for not treating a horse properly.
My frustration is that although I have read his website and despite some interesting stories and affirmations I don't see any real science there.
Thanks for your concern - those that know me know that I am not very brave at all !!!