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Old 20-01-2011, 12:02 PM   #21
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cheers cornflower the site dosent say how much to feed etc, just aprox how long it should last. for a 500kg horse
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Old 20-01-2011, 06:36 PM   #22
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It's 10gr, i have the container
The 750gr will last you 75 days, or just over 2 months.
It's a yeast cell wall extract with Vit E. Apparantly the Vit E is important, but can't remember why. I think it's something to do with it being bound by toxins, not 100%.
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bare in mind that when you feed tox defy, you need to feed high concentrations of salt, vitamin E and magnesium. So not only do you have to pay for the tox defy, you have to feed all the other stuff too.... ends up very pricey! But if it works for your horse, I guess it is worth it
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buy a bag of pool salt, get a bag of mag oxide from your stockfeeders $11.00 for around 3kgs (lasts ages) and then a vit E sup, its not that exy
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cheers all, was just reading some info from a nz website and they all seen to feed it, as they seem to have high quantities of rye in their paddocks, with the way hay is going was looking at it as an option.
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Old 21-01-2011, 02:30 PM   #26
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I just still can't help but wonder about the effectiveness of it.

By that I mean, could you still feed say highly infected rye grass, feed the tox defy and 100% it will work and the RGT won't affect your horse?

It could be another good solution for the drought feeding thing, feed meadow hay, get it tested but as a safeguard, use a binder as well ??
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bon and ted that is what i was thinking, looking at the sites in NZ there horses are grazing on affected pastures and they feed binders as a matter of fact to reduce the sypmtoms/ side effects.

well that how i was reading it.

could work for someone like debonair who cant feed oaten,

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could work for someone like debonair who cant feed oaten,
that's what I was thinking!
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i dont feed meadow all the time but if got some it would be good to feed be able to a supplement with it just in case, as just coz its tested doesnt mean its 100% safe.
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For my boy it hasn't made a difference. And yes, i feed salt, and the Gotcha Xtra Cal (mag/cal supplement).
I have kept in touch with the guys at Gotcha, and they know about my boy's problems. I have told them that nothing has worked. They said that it could be because there are either no toxins to bind. Or that my horse has other problems which are prevent uptake of the mins/vits and stopping things working properly.
Either way, i'm in the process of trying to figure out what my boy's problems might be, so i won't be buying anything.
Still have the Tox Defy, and using it simply to use it up.

Oh, and the Tox Defy has Vit E added.
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