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Old 11-01-2009, 10:15 PM   #1
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I've always believed that meadow hay was better for ponies and oaten better for horses. Is this true? I have a v fat pony who needs to loose weight and a TB who needs to put a bit of weight on!! It's a difficult situation. I can't really seperate the 2 at feed time. I've been relying on the fact that the TB is the dominant 1 and (hopefully) will not let the pony near her hay. ATM thay both get meadow hay. I've been considering putting her on oaten and leaving him on meadow. Is this a wise thing to do? I'm worried that the pony will get hold of the oaten though when the TB had had oaten before she wouldn't let any other horse near it... I think I'm worrying about nothing but need some re-assurance or other advise.
The pony get 1 biscuit at night and she gets 2 biscuits at night and 2 in the morning. They both get a hard feed at night too but obviously the pony's is tiny and the TB's is much larger.
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Old 12-01-2009, 10:22 AM   #2
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As I understand it, and I could be totally of the mark here, meadow hay has less nutrients in it than oaten. It was recommended I feed my fatty meadow hay but up here it is not available so he gets a strict ration of oaten.

Does the pony need hardfeed? If it were me personally I would feed oaten hay and cut out or cut back on the hardfeed (i.e the grains) and just give him a small feed of chaff and lucerne chaff with his vit supplement.

Good luck I know who hard it is to keep very good doers on the right side of the scale!
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Old 12-01-2009, 11:45 AM   #3
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It one of those things.......some horses need this - some need that.

I have - and will always seek out meadow hay in preference to oaten - as It's quality, and nturitional value can actualy be better than oaten.

Good quality meadow hay should offer more than the conventional oaten.

However - as their is no stipulation on what 'meadow hay' is - other than it grew in that paddock and we cut it for hay, it can very GREATLY in it's nutritional value.

Also - people who often cut meadow hay do it as the paddock is overgrown and can make a buck - rather than a purpose grown oaten hay crop.

I prefer to feed meadow hay - as the only reason I would feed hay is to suppliment the pasture.

And meadow hay is the closest thing to pasture I can find.

Our meadow hay has a blend of Rygrass, Lucerne, and Medic in it (clover) so it's a lovely potent blend that actually has to be diluted out in their diets with oaten

I think it's one of those situations where it's a great Idea for us all to learn to get better at identifying our grasses so e can actually see the quality of what we are feeding. We'd save ourselves alot of money in the end.

Actualy with my 4 - nomally this time of the year we'd be hardfeeding everyone. Im only giving them vitamin supps at the moment. Amazing - im really suprised.

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I feed meadow once, never again.

All of my horses, ranging from a yearling 29" Mini to a 13.3hh pony (well until last week was a 15.2hh stallion) live on oaten hay rolls.
We have VERY limited paddock feed except the 6 acres of stubble that is now vanished, my neddies do very well off the oaten rolls & majority of them are just on hay, with a mineral lick.
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I find nearly all my horses actually do better on meadow hay. Especially the ponies, cobs and QH though. I think a good quality meadow is better for them, oaten is usually off highly fertilised paddocks that are usually incredibly minerally unbalanced. Plus I don't really have horses that need excess grain. Then the rest of oaten hay is straw with very little nutritional value. My problem is usually finding a good meadow hay though and getting it all the way here!!
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I fed meadow to both my horses for about a year or so with some excellent results. BUT I won't touch the stuff again after Rye Grass Tox killed my best mate.

Oaten all the way now.
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I feed meadow once, never again.

All of my horses, ranging from a yearling 29" Mini to a 13.3hh pony (well until last week was a 15.2hh stallion) live on oaten hay rolls.
We have VERY limited paddock feed except the 6 acres of stubble that is now vanished, my neddies do very well off the oaten rolls & majority of them are just on hay, with a mineral lick.
Can I ask why you wont feed it again? thanks remaani
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we grew our own Meadow hay last year..and the neddies never looked so good !

So this year {we've got no more spare paddocks he he he } we're buying it in from a local farmer..at $50 around bale, its all Rygrass & Clover

love the stuff !

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We have always fed oaten rolls with excellent results.

It would be good to try some meadow hay out, but it is a very rare commodity in the Avon Valley, and the freight $$$ up from the Harvey region makes the whole idea cost prohibitive.

Where you live and what is locally produced and available, greatly influences what you feed!!
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:26 PM   #10
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Thanks every1, but I'm still no clearer!LOL!
I bought some oaten today and threw some down with the mares meadow hay. She ate the oaten first! So I thunk it'll be ok, however, at the price i paid for it I could be giving her an extra 3 biccies of meadow so I guess $$$$$ tell and I'll be going back to meadow only once the oaten is finished unless she picks up condition dramatically on it.
Deschuur - the pony get the tiniest of hard feeds, just as a carrier for the vits/mins. It's about a double handful chaff recommended amount of vit/mins and about 10 pony cubes for a bit of interest!! He also has 1 biccie meadow hay and has access to grazing 24/7 atm. I've only had him about a week so the weight is not my fault, though is now my problem. He's getting exercised once a day but I'm concerned about stress on his joints so it's mostly walking atm. I hope i';m doing the right thing. I must get a weight tape to monitor his weight loss!
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