ASH Stallion question
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madcow
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I owned one by Blue Cardinal....very nice mare.
Keith Lawrence owns him and would be more than happy to chat for hours about him I'm sure. I think Keith said he's about 28 now?
Keith Lawrence owns him and would be more than happy to chat for hours about him I'm sure. I think Keith said he's about 28 now?
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madcow
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He tended to throw pretty heads and quiet temperaments.
He is chestnut with white and won a lot in his day. Keith told me a story a week ago now about running out of petrol while towing a float. He saddled up Blue and rode him in the dark to the nearist servo (which wasn't very close)
He is chestnut with white and won a lot in his day. Keith told me a story a week ago now about running out of petrol while towing a float. He saddled up Blue and rode him in the dark to the nearist servo (which wasn't very close)
chocollo
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Nothing to add regarding either boy. Just wanted to say that I love your avatar Marianne. Has Miss Pop slimmed down? She looks Fab!! and sooo flexi 
Would be interested in the topic though. Have considered acquiring a baby by Blue Cardinal in the past. Used to drive past him everyday on the way home from work.
Would be interested in the topic though. Have considered acquiring a baby by Blue Cardinal in the past. Used to drive past him everyday on the way home from work.
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ZaZa
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Blue Cardinal never competed in any of the working stock horse type events though did he ? What he won as more at in hand events I'm led to believe.
I mentioned his name to an ASHS die hard once and they laughed at me.
I mentioned his name to an ASHS die hard once and they laughed at me.
Going by the ASHS studbook the pedigree looks full of either "unknown" or TB breeding. Unknown usually means a station mare or stallion. These horses were usually not regarded as commercial breeding stock but rather as breeding horses for properties ect. They form a part of many stock horse pedigrees. Lots of our greatest mares were station mares that went on to foal a number of Australian Stock Horse impact sires.
The ASHS studbook has a couple of Cardinal progeny stallions registered as SB.
I notice the stallion Cardinal Blue Chip has both top and bottom line inbred to Cardinal.
The ASHS studbook has a couple of Cardinal progeny stallions registered as SB.
I notice the stallion Cardinal Blue Chip has both top and bottom line inbred to Cardinal.
ClubIgnite
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I have a mare from blue cardinal, she is small, solid, compact and pretty. Sweet natured really but not handled enough as a youngster. She's a full sister to cardinals blue chip. I bought her from keith. Blue cardinal would be close to 30 now if he's still going. They mightn't be the fanciest stock horses but they can certainly move and turn on a dime, and are tough and well conformed. And true ASH type, which i think is important.
Blue Cardinal - LOL
Westons Yakka = sire by Lindsay
out of westons coffee
good horse light on his feet - very short from front to back tho
good cow horse
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ZaZa
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That's that's what I was eluding to EVP.
He certainly doesn't trace back to any of the champions of yesteryear.
No FS or FM breeding in there.
LOL Buckaroo
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Bon & Ted
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I'm pretty sure someone once "LOL'd" at my ASH mares breeding (or maybe the lack of) idk *#)
I didn't investigate her breeding at all when I bought her - have no interest in it, she's a nice mare and was what I was after with a fab temperament and don't really intend of using her as an ASH broodie, or even in ASH events, so what does her parents breeding or even nature mean to me.
By the sounds of it, your friend doesn't need the "good" ASH lines anyway if she is using it for ARC etc, if she likes the horse...
I didn't investigate her breeding at all when I bought her - have no interest in it, she's a nice mare and was what I was after with a fab temperament and don't really intend of using her as an ASH broodie, or even in ASH events, so what does her parents breeding or even nature mean to me.
By the sounds of it, your friend doesn't need the "good" ASH lines anyway if she is using it for ARC etc, if she likes the horse...
ASH are "The Breed for EVERY Need", hence the variety of non-heritage bloodlines in the studbook. The more variety, the better IMO, as they cant all be "bred in the purple" and that breeding wont guarantee a great performer with a great temperament!..
As BNT said.. "if you like the horse, thats all that matters"
cheers
As BNT said.. "if you like the horse, thats all that matters"
cheers
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madcow
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I honestly couldn't tell you what Blue Cardinal won as he was retired from showing around the time I was competing in ASH stuff. I recall he was supreme at the Royal one year though? I havn't heard of the other sire but not into stock horses of late.
When I was showing ASH you'd have a line up of anything from pure 100% American quarter horse bloodlines, to almost pure TB's, to Station bred mystery type working stock and a few things in between.
The stud book was still open back then even.
You don't get "Black Type" or "BlueBlood" stockhorses....they are a type (which is varied lol)
If bloodlines matter than stick with quarter horses, or TB's or even Warmbloods where horses are often valued by their pedigree alone
When I was showing ASH you'd have a line up of anything from pure 100% American quarter horse bloodlines, to almost pure TB's, to Station bred mystery type working stock and a few things in between.
The stud book was still open back then even.
You don't get "Black Type" or "BlueBlood" stockhorses....they are a type (which is varied lol)
If bloodlines matter than stick with quarter horses, or TB's or even Warmbloods where horses are often valued by their pedigree alone