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Old 09-02-2010, 11:54 AM   #61
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I agree with EVP here

And there are already so many happy ammie horses out there, are there not? Well in this height range anyway. So then it is not just happy ammies, but happy ammies who like spots and want bigger horses.

What was Buckley if not a happy ammie horse, and he was free
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Old 09-02-2010, 12:03 PM   #62
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As most people know I love coloured performance horses. However I have yet to see a Knabstupper that I would consider buying. Although saying that I have only looked at a few websites.
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Ok well im taking every ones opinions in and thinking very hard and i still think i will go for them, and remember its not for another few years but i thought i would get the ball rolling as i know how long it took Sil to get Nitro across (by the way i looove Nitro patches and all).

Brumby, i could breed to almost anything (within reason) obviously im not going to breed my stally to a shetland but i taller pony might work depending on the height of the stally, so then you would get a galloway type for the kiddies, or i could cross to a tb or warmblood to get a taller type comp horse all rounder, then i could also cross with a standy to get a more solid type with colour and height and all rounder for the fuller fillies out there

I also saw a friesian X that was absolutely stunning so that is another option.

http://www.legacyfriesians.com/gerlindColt5.jpg

So yeah haven't gotten that far yet but i wouldn't mind having a few pures and maybe a couple of crosses.

As for selling/training i would think i would put them for sale as yearlings and if they don't sell within a curtain time then i would retain them to train and re sell as a 3yr old or something along those lines (i haven't worked that much out yet) as for price depends on the mares lines and type as well yes the pures will be a bit more then a cross but then again the people that want the pure will be willing to pay for it for those people that want a little colour with ability then they will be realistically priced no more then something you would buy with the same type/ability/training.

I have thought for years about what breed i would like to start and Friesians, Standys, Coloured Warmbloods (ie patches, pali, bucky ect) is just the main ones and non have seemed right till now with this breed its everything i am looking for well to be honest i was never a fan of spots and didn't ever think i would start a breeding program with one, but there is just something about this breed that has ne captivated and i know there arent many around i would hate for this breed to die out as so many others have in the past as i think they have so much to offer the world.

And like Sil said its about the journey as well, and i have fallen head over heals for this breed and cant stop thinking about when i get a boy of my own. So hopefully in a few years we will have a new stallion with new lines in Aus that will make 3 unless more come in the mean while.

Sorry guys for the long essay but alot has been said since this morning.

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please... dont cross to a standy.........
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Old 09-02-2010, 12:25 PM   #65
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everything you are looking for - based on stuff on the net? I wouldnt consider buying any horse without first either meeting it myself or having someone i know and trust meet it (depending on price - for a stallion i def would have to meet it first!).

And have you looked at marketability?
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Old 09-02-2010, 12:28 PM   #66
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please... dont cross to a standy.........
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Why what is wrong with them????

Sil did you meet Nitro before hand or what did you do to get a honest opinion on him before getting him sent over?

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Old 09-02-2010, 12:31 PM   #67
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Ok well im taking every ones opinions in and thinking very hard and i still think i will go for them, and remember its not for another few years but i thought i would get the ball rolling as i know how long it took Sil to get Nitro across (by the way i looove Nitro patches and all).
Well your best bet right now is to see if you can acquire a partbred here in Australia and get some hands on experience with the breed if possible, that way you'll get to know their day to day habits. If there are two stallions in Australia and no purebred mares, personally I would very seriously consider bringing a mare across (preferably a proven one in foal) instead, because you can have your foundation right there, and demand from other Knab breeders looking for herd stock.

If you get a colt and it's good enough, you have your potential stallion (and two lines not just one as if you brought an entire across instead of a mare), if not you have a purebred gelding that you can bring on to promote the breed. If it's a filly that can help augment your starter herd.

I wouldn't put a trip overseas for a look out of the question either.

Nitro taking a long time to get here was an exception rather than the rule becuase of changing moving plans, EI etc. Or if you are referring to how long it took to find the right colt, then yeah that was a long time, but hey I am a fussy woman lol
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i have NEVER seen a stbred cross that doesnt display some of the more undesirable stbred traights. such as 4-beat canter, lateral walk, flat topline, large head, big shoulders/small rump, short neck, long body, trailing hocks, daisy cutter movement etc etc.

There are so many stbreds already being dogged or starving in back paddocks, why would anyone want to create more. If you want stbred, buy a purebred. And those that dont want stbred wont buy 1/2 breds.
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i have NEVER seen a stbred cross that doesnt display some of the more undesirable stbred traights. such as 4-beat canter, lateral walk, flat topline, large head, big shoulders/small rump, short neck, long body, trailing hocks, daisy cutter movement etc etc.
Seen plenty of these stbred traits in purebred breeds
Seriously you're barking up the wrong tree here Heifs, Mon has had standies for a long, long time and good ones too.
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where is nanygoat...
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