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Mouse · 08-07-2008, 07:22 PM

Unfortunately I don't have any mares due this season. My OH is not horsey at all but he is already grumping that there will be no little ones around

so fingers crossed for 3 next year.

I have bred two foals by Shining Priority but I will let their owners post pics.

Lena must come and see your boy. I have a maiden mare this year who is going over a small stallion but depending on how big she grows will depend on who she goes to, I only have little legs

F.adila · 08-07-2008, 07:41 PM

Ooh ohh any excuse to show my monster off

Heres Banjo (Omega Second Chance x Shining Priority)
Is currently 8months old

(sorry about the crappy side on shot, its the most recent one i have, the rest are several months old)

heres his sexy bum(and fat belleh!!)

And all his glory.. plus his food

horsegirl · 09-07-2008, 06:35 AM

And heres Banjo's big sister Lily.
This shot only a couple of days old, she is 22 months old here.

colibanqh · 09-07-2008, 08:01 AM

Mouse
Foals by Three Solid Bars out of not very big maiden mares by 2 months of age reach the same height and bulk as foals out of our BIG mares. Arnold is very consistent as a producer re height, bone and temperament. Despite himself being with minimal white (tiny star) he tends to through a lot of white on the legs and faces out of mares with no white at all

cheers, lena

Playin With Fire · 09-07-2008, 08:29 AM

Lily is gorgeous! She has such a kind face (and pretty).
What are your plans for her??

Bucking mad · 09-07-2008, 08:44 AM

I bred my maiden 3 yo Shining Priority mare to a large QH stallion in 2005. Although more than happy with the foal, he was BIG and got stuck by his shoulders and had to be pulled. It seemed to take a lot out of the mare ( as compared to my other mares who have foaled) and even the next day she was a little "lack lustre" even though she was a great Mum.

I also found it took her a long time to get condition back after weaning, despite been plenty of feed and tlc and she seemed to be still having a growth spurt herself.

Looking back, i would not have put a maiden mare to such a large, well muscled stallion, despite her been 15.1 and well grown. She was obviously still not fully grown and the added burden of carrying a foal, massivley increased her nutritional needs. When on the ground the foal was large and quick growing and again seemed to sap her even though she was amply fed and looked after. He was weaned at just under 4 months because of this and it still took her another 4 or 5 months to really pick up.

Looking back I would have bred her to a smaller stallion for her first foal and then bred to a larger stallion for the next foal. This is just my opinion, made from my observations of her pregnancy, birth, lactation and recuperartion.

In ag school our cattle teacher all ways used to put the limousine heifers in calf to an angus bull for their first calving, as putting them to a Limousine bull used to have a high percentage of dystocia's (difficult birth). After the first calf, the muscles are a little looser and a bigger calf is no problem.

IMO this applys to horses to.

colibanqh · 09-07-2008, 10:30 AM

Funny you mentioned it BM

we had 3 foal crops from Three Solid Bars and 1 foal crop from Tru Blu Texan, who still has more body and bone than Arnold. Arnold is NOT a heavy muscled stallion, on the contrary he is rather elegant in comparison to your tipical quarter horse type, due to a 50% influx of TB breeding.
We never had any problems with breeding our stallions to maiden mares on a large scale. 3 of our maidens foaled on their own without our help this year. In many cases when we are present at birth we pull a foal out, there is no point in sitting and watching the birth when it could be over and done with much easier and quicker for the mare.
But the most horrific foaling of our 2 maiden mares was by our little 14'2 cutting stallion Metallic Oak when we nearly lost the mares and foals. Simply because cutting horses are born with more body bulk on the width of their shoulders and they get more chances of getting stuck in a birth canal of a maiden mare. Short Quarter Horses usually carry more bulk than tall ones.
cheers, lena

Bucking mad · 09-07-2008, 10:41 AM

Umm this wasn't intended as smaller vs bigger qh, just what I experienced with my own maiden mare. And by smaller stallion, it could have been a paint or a arab or any breed in fact, i was talking about body type and overall size.
Another maiden mare of mine did similar in that the foal became stuck at the shoulders but she did not have any problems maintaining weight. i put this to the fact that she was a 6 yo and finished growing herself. She was also in foal to a large qh stallion.

zoo · 09-07-2008, 10:47 AM

Horsegirl Lilly is maturing quite nicely

colibanqh · 09-07-2008, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucking mad

Umm this wasn't intended as smaller vs bigger qh, just what I experienced with my own maiden mare. And by smaller stallion, it could have been a paint or a arab or any breed in fact, i was talking about body type and overall size.
Another maiden mare of mine did similar in that the foal became stuck at the shoulders but she did not have any problems maintaining weight. i put this to the fact that she was a 6 yo and finished growing herself. She was also in foal to a large qh stallion.

BM

the conversation was about western breeds, quarter horses in particular (not arabs or any other breed).
There is no correlation between the size/height of a stallion and a lactating mare maintaining weight. I'd rather have a brood mare that gives herself to a foal than the opposit.
Cheers, Lena

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