Personally I have a great relationship with my old vet in Busso, I know I can still call him now for advise even though I am not a current client. My two local vets are also great people more than willing to advise when I call and attend if needed. Now these relationships have taken some work, and work on mutual trust and respect, and they have to begin somewhere. I can't count the amount of threads where people ask for advise and get told to call a vet, and even at times it's vet giving the advise, nod to AnneE, Beagle and Warrick. This forum is blessed with several vets and vet nurses but they are not a clinic, they can only advise on the information you give, and how often has that information been either wrong, uninformed or uneducated leading to people guessing at a diagnosis. So mostly our more knowledgable people will not post advise due to the above, if you can't see it, touch it, even smell it then you are working blind. Yes a vet bill can be expensive, but quite often you only need the one upfront visit, the vet can then advise from their over the phone or the counter and the cost can be kept down. No vet in their right mind will let you out of site with strong drugs unless they deem you competent to administer them and also store them safely. It also amazes me how little people know about basic first aid and a baseline normal for their animal be it horse, dog or rabbit. Quite often things are quite serious before it's even noticed that something is wrong, where as other peolple can tell from one glance across the paddock which horse is lame or collicky. My point is don't fear your vet, see them as the valued asset they are, work with them, they are there to help, if funds are tight, talk to your vet now about the what if something goes wrong, start a vet bill only money jar where you put all your loose change, suprising how that one adds up. Start to put a first aid kit together over time, a roll of vet wrap this pay, some betidine the next, before you know it you have a kit without breaking the bank. Vets are busy people, but everyone I have met to date are more than willing to help genuine people. So be genuine, don't call the vet because fluffy didn't eat breakfast, with out first doing your research and later finding out that fluffy raided that cat food etc. Learn your animals baselines, write them down, practice taking temps ect. This forum can be very unforgiving of people who put off calling a vet, or who try to treat themselves with magical potions and the therapy clearly isn't working, and every option is taken except calling a vet. Vets can also be unforgiving of clients who don't keep up regular maintenance of an animal and then call them to fix a preventable problem. So get teeth done, immunize, clip claws, maintain hooves, worm, be a good owner first, it will save you a lot in the longrun, and go along way to gaining the respect and trust from your vet that you will need if the worst happens.