Wondering whether anyone had any insight into whether the wintec stock and bates stock are the same saddles? Is the only difference synthetic and leather or are the designs and tree different? Only asking because some people say they find the wintec stock incredibly uncomfortable but love the bates saddle. I would prefer to buy the wintec because I don't mind synthetic and cheaper price is always a bonus but if the bates is a much nicer saddle will go with that. Thanks!