What colour will it be

Discussion in 'Colour Questions' started by myalla, Jan 6, 2012.

  1. myalla

    myalla New Member

    Mare is a Burnt Buckskin and Stallion is a Chestnut Roan
     
  2. lollyem

    lollyem Well-known Member

    From the Equine Colour Calculator site ( assuming burnt buckskin = smoky black)


    Offspring Color Probability

    8.33% - Smoky Blue Roan
    8.33% - Smoky Black
    8.33% - Buckskin Roan
    8.33% - Buckskin
    8.33% - Blue Roan
    8.33% - Black
    8.33% - Bay Roan
    8.33% - Bay
    8.33% - Palomino Roan
     
  3. Elanda

    Elanda Gold Member

    Not sure what you entered lollyem, but I tried again because having a chestnut parent I was wondering why there was no possibility of a chestnut foal stated';' This is what I got..

    14.58% -
    Buckskin Roan
    14.58% -
    Buckskin
    14.58% -
    Bay Roan
    14.58% -
    Bay
    8.33% -
    Palomino Roan
    8.33% -
    Palomino
    8.33% -
    Chestnut Roan
    8.33% -
    Chestnut
    2.08% -
    Smoky Blue Roan
    2.08% -
    Smoky Black
    2.08% -
    Blue Roan
    2.08% -
    Black

    so my money is on chestnut colt**)
     
  4. lollyem

    lollyem Well-known Member

    Elanda, you are right - I didn't scroll down far enough when copy/pasting - sorry it was late at night!!

    8.33% - Smoky Blue Roan
    8.33% - Smoky Black
    8.33% - Buckskin Roan
    8.33% - Buckskin
    8.33% - Blue Roan
    8.33% - Black
    8.33% - Bay Roan
    8.33% - Bay
    8.33% - Palomino Roan
    8.33% - Palomino
    8.33% - Chestnut Roan
    8.33% - Chestnut

    There ya go! (THo still different from yours Elanda....)
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2012
  5. ArabAtHeart

    ArabAtHeart Well-known Member

    Burnt buckskin is different to smokey black, though. Burnt buckskin still has the Agouti gene, whereas smokey black does not. That would probably change the results from the calculator.
     
  6. kiraSpark

    kiraSpark Gold Member

    Totally correct, AAH.

    Myalla, do you know if the mare has a chestnut parent at all?

    Or, has the mare ever had a chestnut foal herself?

    Couple of questions to narrow down the options :p
     
  7. beagle

    beagle Well-known Member

    lollem ,thanks for that link.
    using it for my mare, i have an 8.3% chance of black.
    go the minority!!!:D

    seriously, what a great link.:)*
     
  8. cobbie

    cobbie Gold Member

    Is that calculator really all that reliable??

    I just put in my future foals parents details and it says I have a 58% of a bay and 30% of a chestnut, sire is chestnut, dam is bay however dams dam line is basically all chestnut, and with sire being chestnut....my chances of bay were slim I thought!
     
  9. kiraSpark

    kiraSpark Gold Member

    Beagle, that colour calculator can be a bit deceptive, particularly if you dont know the agouti status of your horse ;)
     
  10. kiraSpark

    kiraSpark Gold Member

    Tarz, your mares dam is a chestnut, so your mare even though she is bay, carries a recessive chestnut gene (Ee).
    The sire of your foal-to-be is chestnut....so this gives you basically a 50% chance of bay and a 50% chance of chestnut.
    You have a miniscule chance of the foal being black, but it is totally dependant on the agouti status of the sire. As we know your mare carries at least one copy of agouti, being bay herself.
    If the sire of your foal has ever had a black foal, then that will give you some more of an idea what his agouti status is.
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2012
  11. cobbie

    cobbie Gold Member

    No idea, he has no foals on the ground yet! His sire is chestnut and dam i'm not sure about

    ETA: Lol Kiraspark now I look like i'm talking to myself :p
     
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  12. kiraSpark

    kiraSpark Gold Member

    Sorry I had to do a quick edit as I was thinking about the wrong horse!! lol
     
  13. kiraSpark

    kiraSpark Gold Member

    Be nice if they colour tested him for Agouti. Then you'd know for sure what your chances are of getting a black........(wouldnt that be nice!) :)
     
  14. katelol

    katelol Guest

    I've got one! Daddy is a black and mummy is a dark pally/borderline chestnut? Due in a week.

    Daddy just sired a bay foal yesterday with a blonde chestnut.
     
  15. Shonky

    Shonky New Member

    Just thought i'd share our stud's little colour story to show you that 'miniscule' chance can actually happen! Our stallion is grey from bay (Ee / Aa / Gg) and the mare is grey from buckskin (Ee / Aa / nCr / Gg) and the resulting colt is a very striking solid chestnut with blonde mane and tail, plus he carries no agouti (DNA colour ended up as ee / aa / nn / gg). According to the colour calculator, solid chestnut was a 3.13% chance and IT HAPPENED! We were stunned that he bypassed the 75% chance of being grey, let alone ending up being a colour that is pretty rare to find in their breed!

    So your 8.3% chance might be small, but it's certainly not impossible!!! :))
     

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