What colour is a"smokey black"

Discussion in 'Colour Questions' started by milzenzab, Oct 4, 2010.

  1. milzenzab

    milzenzab Active Member

    Well. I am not sure on what a "Smokey black" horse looks like. Could you all please place photos of them for me????????????
     
  2. Webby

    Webby Well-known Member

    I own a smokey black, will try get photos (she had an awful clip job when i got her but its almost all gone)

    the Dilute (cream gene) is responsible for smokey black when acting on a black horse eg.

    Chestnut + Cream Gene = Palomino
    Bay + Cream Gene = Buckskin
    Black + Cream Gene = Smokey Black

    two copies of the cream gene (eg both parents are dilute and pass on the modifing gene) gives you your

    Chestnut + 2 Cream Genes = Cremello
    Bay + 2 Cream Genes = Perlino
    Black + 2 Cream Genes = Smokey Cream
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2010
  3. Elanda

    Elanda Gold Member

  4. ZaZa

    ZaZa Guest

    Intersting colour. In those photos (especially the yearling ones) you could be mistaken for calling her a liver chestnut.
     
  5. nklpark

    nklpark Well-known Member

    Hi ZAZA as Webby said it is horse or pony that is Black with one Cream Gene

    smokey black is more commonly called black buckskin, they very a bit a colour shades but most ive seen are brown to black in colour...you can find more info at wa buckskin assoc. website..... i copied a little bit for you i hope i'm allowed to do that:D

    Q. Why does the WABA use the term 'Black Buckskin' were in the US they use the term 'smokey black' ?

    A: The term Black Buckskin was first used in the WABA Colour Appendix in 1978. We have registered 'Black Buckskins" since then and see no reason to change. A Black Buckskin is just as much a buckskin as any other shade of buckskin and the WABA feel it is the best discriptive name for the colour. Black Buckskin is the term used by all Buckskin registrys in Australia and in the UK.
     
  6. milzenzab

    milzenzab Active Member

    OMG. That is the most beautiful horse I have ever seen.....
    It is a bit like a "chocolate" colour........
    I have just put a mare in foal, that is meant to throw a Smokey black Tobanio as one of the 3 colours. And I had no idea what it looked like.....
    THank so much for your help.
     
  7. samm

    samm Gold Member

    This is a smokey black.Telltale sign with smokey black(cream+black gene) over Cream+Bay Dilution is eye colour.Smokey blacks are often born with teal colour eyes as this filly was as a baby.
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  8. ZaZa

    ZaZa Guest

    Yep, I get that ;) but without knowing a horses breeding/parentage, you could be forgiven for thinking the horse was another colour.
     
  9. ArabAtHeart

    ArabAtHeart Well-known Member

    This is my favourite smokey black! :D

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  10. Yarrabah Quarter Horses

    Yarrabah Quarter Horses Well-known Member

    This is a pic of my smokey black, wasn't sure of her colour at first so I got her colour tested to be sure.

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    She still has different coloured eyes more greyish/blue and her summer coat is coming through very dark.

    Regards

    Sue
     
  11. Dollar

    Dollar Well-known Member

    Is she a 2010 foal Sue ? I have two similar colours with the teal eyes.
     
  12. Yarrabah Quarter Horses

    Yarrabah Quarter Horses Well-known Member

    Hi Dollar no she is a 2009 foal. Her new coat is almost black/dark brown, I suggest you get yours colour tested as thats the only way to be sure, I hate guess work **)

    Regards

    Sue
     

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