treatment and prevention of Ulcers

Discussion in 'Horse Management' started by sparkie, Jan 10, 2011.

  1. sparkie

    sparkie Well-known Member

    can you help me... my horse has had an awful run in the last week an unbeleivable awful week... and it has ended up with my boy dealing with nasty ulcers...

    at the moment he is in the early stages of treating ulcers with omniguard and i just started tonight with slippery elm... now i have read aloe vera and camomile dried flowers are also a treatment...

    i also want to know more about the feed i should be feeding him and feed i should be keeping him away from... it is a bout the acid content in the stomach as i understand and also as i understand protein can irritate ulcers too...

    so please can you guys help me out with treatment prevention and diet for ulcers...???? anything and everything is very much appreciated

    cheers
     
  2. kp

    kp Well-known Member

    Stick with the omoguard for awhile. It is good. Grains will upset the stomach further. So try and avoid these. A lot of horses with ulcers will refuse to eat grain. Horses are designed to eat for much of the day. So as much turn out time as possible on a grass paddock is always good. If this isn't possible small feeds throughout the day is the next best. Ensure you feed lots of roughage to your horse. Lucerne seems to be particularly good for them. John Khonke has some good advice for ulcers on his website.

    As for preventative, you can stick with the low dose omoguard. Or switch to slippery elm or gastrocoat or something similar.
     
  3. Gamby

    Gamby Well-known Member

    I prefer Gastrozole over omoguard but was also told by my vet and others not to feed slippery elm with either of these treatments as the slippery elm coats the stomach and doesnt let the omoguard/gastrozole do its job.
     
  4. montygirl

    montygirl Well-known Member

    My horse was on omoguard and aloe vera. He had to have the omoguard an hour before the aloe vera, otherwise the aloe would coat the stomach the the omoguard could not get to the stomach lining and fix the problems. My horse was also on peppermint leaves to relieve the muscle tension caused by the ulcers.
     
  5. sparkie

    sparkie Well-known Member

    thats a really good point.. so i wont use the omniguard until it has settled down and then use the slippery elm and stuff as a preventative.. omniguard is expensive and he is a big horse... the vet said to put him on 7ml per day as a treatment ... i read that steam or micronised grains are ok.. is that right? just stay away from the over processed grains and pellets and stuff... i am certainly going to have to change his diet.. and unfortunally my paddock are like scratched up chook pens so hay will have to do... as he is already a picker i just put out a bale and replace it once he has finished it...
    thankyou for your advice... this is kinda scarey to me maybe not for most of you but with everything else that has happened this week with him this just tops it off... and with watching him go through pain and just laying down most of the day it really is discouraging to see him like that...
    i am a little hesitant to keep using the omniguard as a preventative for the cost of it and as it is a chemical based treatment... would the alternatives work just as well being a preventative once treatment has done its job?
     
  6. Jessie_13

    Jessie_13 Well-known Member

    The best thing to do while treating the ulcers is to completely strip his diet back to just roughage!

    Chuck him on a hay roll, or feed out heaps, so he has constant access...

    My friend's horse had a very nasty case and the best thing while he was on the treatment, was just hay and a hard feed of bulk chaff (oaten and lucerne), your vitamin mix and a tablespoon of bicarb soda (reduces acid) and also par-boiled rice is good to add bulk...do this while he is on the treatment, then SLOWLY start introducing your other feedstuffs, including your slippery elm....I would start by adding some copra or canola meal (up to a cup per feed)...You need to stay away from feeds high in starch...One of the best for ulcer horses is lupins, as they are low in starch, but high in protein...But yes, protein can aggrevate them if added to quickly, so do this very slowly...Bicarb is good to keep then on to as it helps keep the acid at bay...Then it becomes management, make sure he is not ridden on an empty stomach, so while tacking him up, just give him a handful of lucerne chaff to munch on....Keep him on a high a roughage diet as possible and monitor his attitude and weight...You may have to give him a couple of courses of ulcer medication to completely clear them up...gastrozol is very good.

    Omoguard is the treatment, not a preventative...Gastrozol is the other treatment...You need to treat with this and then prevent with management and things like bicarb and slipperly elm...PPL often use a mix of things like slipperly elm, fenugreek, whey powder, chamomile and other herbs...but if you treat them properly, bicarb and slippery elm will usually do the job and is less expensive then adding all sorts of concontions!
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2011
  7. kp

    kp Well-known Member

    How big is your horse? I've never had a horse on more than 5mL. Gastrozol and Omoguard are the same drug. I prefer Omoguard, but others prefer Gastrozol. Good luck with the horse.
     
  8. horsescomefirst

    horsescomefirst Well-known Member

    KP-is any of these legal to race on? iv never had a horse with ulcers but picked up a horse yesterday which i suspect might have them .

    and i have stuff off the vet that cost a FORTUNE, just wondering if that paste is the same as the stuff from stockfeeds?? im pretty sure he said it was pure omoguard, better than the stockfeed stuff so not sure??
     
  9. Raw Prawn

    Raw Prawn Well-known Member

    Omoguard is an S4 medication requiring prescription from your vet - so no it is not available from the stockfeeds. It is illegal for them to sell it.

    Omoguard can also be used as a prevention for ulcers, at a lower dose
     
  10. horsescomefirst

    horsescomefirst Well-known Member

    ok, thats the one i have then.
    whats the one yo can use then cos read in racing ahead that there are some you can use. ill go find my book and have a read....
     
  11. Cornflower

    Cornflower Well-known Member

    So a vet has seen him and has prescribed the Omoguard, and you are already feeding it?
    Leave him on it, follow the vet's advice, and finish the whole course. Do not stop and do not change.

    If your horse has ulcers, and the vet has given you Omoguard, then do it!
    You can use other, cheaper stuff later, but you need to get on top of them asap.

    My horse was on a month-long course of it, also on 7 or 8 mls (i can't remember, it was months ago).
    I fed no other herbs while he was on the Omoguard. If you want to feed slippery elm or aloe vera gel, fine, but put it in the AM feed, and give the Omo in the PM feed (or vise versa).
    Slippery elm should never be fed with any medications or other herbs as it prevents them being used, as it coats the lining, and you're simply throwing money away, and Omoguard is expensive. I'm sure the same goes for aloe and fenugreek, as these also coat the lining.

    After i finished the Omo treatment, i used aloe vera gel and chamomile. Slippery elm didn't do much for my boy. I have not tried fenugreek, but it's meant to be very good cheap.
     
  12. katelol

    katelol Guest

    Feed your horse off the ground.

    Apparently having the head in the lowered position allows the sinus' to drain properly and the saliva (that buffers the stomach and stops ulcers starting) to develop in the amounts needed.
     
  13. wheatbeltanimalrescue

    wheatbeltanimalrescue Well-known Member

    You can quite confidently use slippery elm as the treatment and preventative ;) My specialist horse vet uses slippery elm to treat ulcers all the time with fantastic results **) Its all natural, cannot hurt them and is a heck of a lot cheaper than the other treatments out there!!!
     
  14. horsescomefirst

    horsescomefirst Well-known Member

    where can i get some of this and what sort of $$$ are we talking?? would like some ASAP :)
     
  15. Merlin

    Merlin Well-known Member

    I get my Slippery Elm Powder from City Livestock on Gnangara Road Lexia. You can buy it online on the auction site and a few equine herb places. It comes in a kilo bag and is $70.

    Ok have had ALOT to do with ulcers. PLEASE USE ULCER MEDICATION TO TREAT THE ULCERS. Either Ulcerguard or Gastrozol, had best results with gastrozol you can get it much cheaper at Biojohns and saves the Vet bill. Take the horse off ALL GRAIN and STARCHY FEED like Bran. After you finish the course of Ulcer treatment use slippery elm as a preventative, I also use whey powder as this lines the gut too. Make sure the horse has adlib hay or pasture, horses need to eat to keep the stomach acid under control. I have also found giving the 2 tablespoons of natural yogurt also helps, gets the gut bacteria up so the aid in better digestion.

    I have followed this with 2 separate TB's with ulcers and they never got them again *touches wood*
     
  16. wheatbeltanimalrescue

    wheatbeltanimalrescue Well-known Member

    As the horse has already been started on an ulcer medication yes it's best now to leave it on that course until finished but for future reference Slippery elm is a very effective treatment not just preventative ;)
    I have seen horses saved from being pts after using slippery elm for their ulcers!
     
  17. Merlin

    Merlin Well-known Member

    PTS from ulcers, never heard of this:)
     
  18. horsescomefirst

    horsescomefirst Well-known Member

    $70.00 a kilo??:eek: how much a day do you feed of it as a preventative??
     
  19. Grasshopper

    Grasshopper Active Member


    Also Agree 100% with Merlin.

    Dont feed slippery elm or anything like that (eg whey powder) when treating with Omiguard or whetever - coats the stomach and teh meds cant work properly

    Once he has finished teh course of meds put him back on it. I used it but then went to whey powder instead of teh slippery elm.
     
  20. Merlin

    Merlin Well-known Member

    I feed a tablespoon mixed with water and whey powder then syringe it down their neck**) That way you know they are getting it and it dosen't get wasted :) Lasts about 4 months :)
     

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