Agree, but that does not mean that you should necessarily aim for the high peak of a discipline, because that is just unrealistic in the real world. Its not going to happen in 99% of cases. It also negates the enjoyment for those owners who genuinely enjoy the pleasure side of riding, and are not looking at selling their horse, but keeping it as a member of the family for life. This is the difference in seeing horses as a money making excercise and seeing a particular horse as an asset to your life, not matter how much it is worth monetarily. Well yes thats true, but if that horse has all the basics, then what is the harm in learning a few different things, that could be seen as ground work, and trust building excercises? Hehehe, tell my new horsey that. He knows how to pick his feet up, he still goes through his once a week day of deciding he is not going to pick his feet because that his temperament. Oh eventually he will give it up, but just every now and again, he has got to go "make me ". I think if I ever sold him, his temperament would also to be to try out any new owner on this point.(not that I have any plans to sell him) Though I must admit there are sometimes, especially if Im in a rush and he has decided that today is the day he is going to do some testing, that I wish I hadnt semi retired my old boy. LOL My point is that this taming of temperament will probably never happen with him. Its his nature. Though the time period between these testing days has and will lessen, if he went to someone else he would try it on them. His behaviour with my daughter and I is different, and that is due to her not being consistent with him in discipline. So he walks over her in some aspects, but behaves himself with me in these same aspects. Now Im not very experienced in my riding, which I have weekly lessons for, but due to being old, I finding it slower progress than I did when I was a kid. (I was so surprised at the amount of balance I had lost, and thats my pet peeve with myself atm). I dont see the harm in deciding to teach my horse to bow if I so chose. He has the ground work established. His riding is at basic levels, which he gets work on every week with professional guidance. So in these circumstances, I cant see the harm, and it shouldnt be poo pooed as an idea unless the owner is neglecting all that other stuff. And to make the assumption that the owner is ignoring the other aspects is a bit rude.