Okay. Please no one bite my head off, as I am in a totally neutral position here. I can see everyone's points of view. a. I have seen Latte, and he does tend to go barrell shaped when a little overweight, same as all other horses do. If I took a photo of Rahni now side on, he would look fine, but front on, and you would be asking me for photos of his teats b. I agree with lessons, and a saddle fitter, but as Shandeh has said, this can't happen until AFTER they have moved. So i'd stop suggesting those things, because they'll look into it once they have moved. They, like us, are not magicians, we don't have time, or funds to do everything we would like to RIGHT NOW. c. Shandeh, I am going to start taking Rahnald on beach rides once a week, as part of his fitness programme. We will be starting in WALK. And doing lateral work, and fun work. Lifting him off his front end, letting him come underneath himself, and getting him light to his aids. Only when I feel he is progressing steadily, will I mive him up to trot. I am sure that you can nab the other bay in the float if you want to take Latte down for a different environment to work in. d. Dressage is hard work. VERY hard work. Look at Mocha and Kayli, they've been battling this dressage slog for ages. They've hit brick walls hard in the face, and they've cleared them as well. But she is uder the guidance with a VERY good instructor, and she takes time out to reflect on her rides. She videos them, scrutinizes them, and learns from her mistakes. Jumping should be the same. It is HARD work. Some horse are cut out for one discipline more than another, and some adapt to the rider. Rahni, he's adapted to dressage. He used to be a hacky. But now, I take him into a hack ring, and we battle. Dressage is mroe his thing. If you love Latte as much as you say you do, and want to keep him, then YOU change your perception. Get him working super well, and then sell him on when he has some more education under his belt. I would have thought that would be the way to go? I had Rosie for two years. After the first year, I should have sold her, but I didn't. I had dressage lessons every two weeks, and jumping lessons every three. Together, we battled on, until she could pull some good dressage tests, and fly around cross country, in perfect timing. It didn't matter that we sold her to a family who didn't need those buttons installed, we got the money for the work that we put into her. It was BLOODY hard work! I feel as though i'm writing an essay So i'll leave it at that. Pretty sure I just went round in a big circle, and got nowhere. Oooops.