Yes you used names of horses. You publically ridiculed them because YOU believe they do not represent good examples of the breed. YOU judged them to have conformation issues. You publically ridiculed Judges, who by all accounts could be identified with the information you posted. These postings are YOUR opinion ONLY. However, because you have so much hatred for me and other QH breeders you seem to believe that your opinion is actual fact. I agreed that the original picture, although doctored, did show some undesireable characterists. How much simplier can that be for you OM? YOU however want to kitchen-sink ALL halter horses and maintain they all have bad conformation? How idiotic is that! *#) And you come to this conclusion by some pictures you found while net surfing? OM, I can assure you the QH world is very large, varied, international and spreads further than your computer room. Your replies only serve to show everyone that you have NEVER been outside to shows, here or overseas. So AGAIN, your "opinion" is made using no experience and no education. Tell me why your opinions are valid again? I don't get my knickers in knots. I don't need to. I'm living what I discuss, I'm using real life experiences to form my opinions, I'm breeding horses, competing horses and mixing with people who have generations of expertise in the industry. And you are still using a couple of unvalidated pics from your computer? I'll make it even easier for you OM..AGAIN......the doctored pic put up by the OP does show what could be seen to be, undesirable rear leg characteristics. Now seeing as it has been stated the pic is as old as Methusula and is photoshopped/fraudulent/doctored, who is the one with knotted knickers? You are in effect categorising ALL Quarter Horses using a fake picture? Gee that's true to form isn't it! Then you find a few more pics and use your vast amount of experience and QH knowledge to judge whether they are good examples of the breed? I'm going to use this term.........WTF? You have NEVER used personal experience and knowledge to form your "opinions". Therefore they are nothing more than views based on hot air. And they get the right amount of debugging. Heaven forbid that someone reads your tripe and thinks it could be even half true! That is why it is so important to keep threads going and correct misinformation. Buy a horse, breed a horse, visit a competion or show, mix with some fantastic horsemen and women, travel, learn and listen. Once you have this life and all its experiences then what you let roll from your fingers might be half believeable. FYI: The AmQHA is continuing to work with their accredited judges and test their skills at training days and seminars. This testing then certifies them to judge at AQHA sanctioned shows. Some will have certification to judge at local level only, some state, and some at international level. This testing is reviewed regularily. Breeders are being encouraged to breed horses that fit with the ethos of the association. The assocation cannot mandate against stupidity or unethical practises. It can only guide and implement its own policies to encourage good breeding standards. Then it flows on to participants and what they do with it is anybodies guess. My hope is that the majority continue to do the right thing with and for their horses.