Hi People, So my sensitive redhead revealed to me that something is up with his withers. For the past few weeks he's been *ouchy* with the saddle - i was figuring he was getting pinched & needs a gullet change on my wintec as he has beefed up quite a bit since i bought him (and it was fitted then). However, last week i went to ride in my friends London Barefoot and he had a very similar "owchy" response. He has had a tight shoulder as well but has had some deep tissue massage, plus my bowen lady didn't detect any real saddle 'pain' on him. :confused: anyway, as i've been busy with work & stuff i've just sort of pottered around doing ground work and bareback riding & haven't had a chance to change the gullet on my saddle. yesterday, i got on him bareback and noticed he is VERY sensitive on his withers. TWITCHING like crazy, at the lightest touch - you know how horses twitch for flies? like that, but real full on twitching. *#) had a small thought that he may have broken his wither... but nothing feels 'broken' (not that i'd know what to feel for if it were broken). besides, it looks okay and aren't broken withers meant to be all squashed looking? he was even turning around to glare at me & would move forward or backward to escape the irritation. i spent some time just massaging it and rubbing it and brushing it. i asked my agistment guy to have a look and he just reckons he's being sensitive... but i know my horse and i haven't had him do that before! i really don't think it's muscle pain either because either side of the wither bone bit, my horse is fine. there's no 'pain' response anywhere along his spine or on his neck. he just seems to have this violent reaction on his wither, along his mane. his mane (saddle path) on the wither is unusually grey so i thought maybe he was getting irritated by his rug - maybe cutting off circulation or something (you know how horses can get white spots from badly fitting tack?). he's been wearing his brother's fly rug as his own is wrecked. They are the same size rugs. could also be bugs/lice but i had a good look and didn't notice anything. I've left him naked (which i don't like doing considering the flies in wanneroo), but if it is from a badly fitting rug, obviously don't want to aggravate it. any experience with something like this???