I agree And the ASH. Truly versatile awesomely tempered animals. To be honest I wouldn't buy a QH unless it was truly exceptional for any english purpose. Lets face it, they aren't bred for it and aren't built for it, most being downhill etc. Makes your job a bit hard for jumping and dressage getting them off the forehand and using their HQ's to take the weight. Yes there are some amazing ones out there. And of course this is JMO. Just as you wouldn't be looking at a flash moving WB to do reining, western pleasure or chasing cows. There are lots of different ASH's around now - my girl is 16.2, strong build with lots of bone and has an amazing temperament - quiet and straightforward like a QH but still a bit of go from the TB. No she will never get to the top of any english discipline, but she does alright. She has polo X'd, camp drafted, jumped, dressaged, trailed etc. She's no world beater but I believe shows the true ideal of the ASH - breed for every need.