My first new horse...a bucker?

Discussion in 'Problem Horses' started by Rayes, Nov 9, 2009.

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  1. EVP

    EVP Gold Member


    I hope he gets an owner with more time.
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2010
  2. Debonair

    Debonair Well-known Member

    rayes - from the pics you sent me, he looks like a lovely horse, he should hopefully get a great long term home! i;m sure there are alot of new owners out there who keep their past, loving owner updated and are happy for them to still keep in touch with the horse :) If you ask the right price you should be able to get the right home and have enough to mayb get yourself something older and less time consuming.
    good luck!
  3. smash

    smash Well-known Member

    rayes GOOD ON YOU.
    you have given it a good go, and the horse is not suited to you, instead of making the situation worse, you are going to do your best to find a more suitable home for the future for the horse.
    in this thread rayes, you are damed if you did and damned if you didnt.
    there was no way some where ever going to please them.

    good on you
    and all the best.
  4. ashka

    ashka Well-known Member

    Agree with Smash 100%. I've really enjoyed following this thread and I would think many people either related to the experience, or learned a lot from it. Thanks for sharing Rayes, and being willing to listen even when some of the advice was quite charged. Until someone is in your shoes, they really don't know the right decision for both you and the horse, so feel confident that you are doing the right thing - it was clearly not a decision made lightly.
  5. EVP

    EVP Gold Member

    I think this is a little bit one damned Rayes at all.*#)
    But it just suits some people to create monsters where there arn't any. It makes them feel superior to be able to paint someone else as the big meanie.....sadly they miss a great deal of good content because they spend far too much time trying to read between the lines.

    Smash, be careful you don't trip going up onto that pedastal. :p
  6. smash

    smash Well-known Member

    LOL LOL i will try not to trip, but thanks for your concern, nothing like feeling loved. thanks bindi LOL
  7. Cornflower

    Cornflower Well-known Member

    I'm going to be honest.

    When i first read your decision, i shook my head and thought 'oh for crying-out-loud!'

    But then the power went off, and i had time to think about it, lol.

    You have tried to do a heck of a lot for this horse. Yes, you have a done a lot more than many people would.
    Maybe you should have known from the start he was going to be hard work, but you really couldn't have know that until problems started to appear. And even then, you tried your best, and you probably thought you'd get him fixed, and all would be well.

    But after an assessment from a trainer, i think you probably got a bit of a shock when he/she told you just how much work this horse would be.

    I think you made a very responsible decision to sell him. Physical problems aside, if you don't have the time to put into his rehab (physical and mental) and training, then you've made the right decision.

    At least now you have more information when you sell him, and can ensure the best of homes for him.
    Just please make sure you don't sell him to one of those 'i'll get him goin!' types, because it sounds like this boy needs some TLC and gentle hands.

    Good luck.
  8. Rayes

    Rayes New Member

    Cody was sold to me on a 'jump on him and go for a ride' basis. He definitely is not this.

    And I was willing to put some re-education into him (even looking forward to it).
    But unfortunately, there is very little education that can be given on the weekly basis that I have time time to ride.
  9. EVP

    EVP Gold Member

    Rayes just one question.
    You mentioned that your mum was an experienced rider and that she rode him to assess him.....what was her take on him?

    Did she think he was too much horse for you at this time?

    I agree that more time is needed if a horse is "green" and it also requires facilities for some elements of work.....but even those quiet horses need regular work of some description if they are to remain quiet.....
    And some just need that regular ride as their "training".

    Good that you have decided to move an unsuitable horse on.....I think everyone looking to buy a horse can learn from your posts....take advise from those experienced around you, if you don't have an experienced person get one, trial horses where possible either at home or away, ask for referrences from other horse people who might "know" the horse or the seller, and really assess just how much time you have to devote to a horse.

    Good luck.
  10. Rayes

    Rayes New Member

    She thought he was a nice horse, but again needed some education.

    I guess I am in the wrong for not realising how much time and effort is needed to give a horse this.

    I have toyed with the idea of asking her to take him on for me...but she's in the midst of a mini-crisis at home, so now's probably not the time to ask!

  11. Cornflower

    Cornflower Well-known Member

    Yeah, i know, you said that you would.

    Which is why i said that it was probably a bit of a shock to hear just how much work the trainer thought the horse would need, as you would not be able to provide this. Probably quite sad for you too?
  12. Rayes

    Rayes New Member

    Yes, it is.

    I'm actually up right now (6.30am in the eastern states) to go and continue his chiro exercises.
  13. EVP

    EVP Gold Member

    So does the horse actually NEED chiro/prescribed exercises?

    If he isn't sore why would he need to have treatments advised by your visiting specialist?

    If he is sore and continues to be as you described in all the posts previously, I would be concerned he might not pass a vet check that a potential buyer might wish to get?

  14. domingo

    domingo Active Member

    it's sad isn't it. Another horse 'not as described'...

    I hope you have better 'luck' next time and are able to find a good home for him.
  15. Rayes

    Rayes New Member

    I don't know...the trainer yesterday commented he dropped his right hindquarter...making it look like he is sore in the leg, rather than lame.

    However, the trainer didn't think he was sore and the vet, whom I got out after Cody starting dropping his right hindquarter, said there was nothing wrong with him.

  16. Cornflower

    Cornflower Well-known Member

    No, he wouldn't be lame. Lameness is to do the feet. This sounds like it might be something to do with his pelvis/hips, or the muscles around that area on that side.
    And there is definately something wrong when a horse starts dropping areas of his body.

    Good on you for continuing to work with him even though you are going to sell him **) I doubt many would.
    My horse's previous owners even stopped feeding him...
  17. dirtbug

    dirtbug Gold Member

    isnt that really sad cornflower i have met people in the past that stop properly caring for a animal once payment has been done and its waiting to be picked up...

    i just dont understand that way of thinking...
  18. smash

    smash Well-known Member

    good on you rayes.
    all the best with finding your horse a suitable home. it is lovely to hear that you are still doing your best for him, despite the decision that you have made.
    lovely to hear
    all the best
  19. EVP

    EVP Gold Member

    Ok so the trainer "felt" something while riding him? The trainer recommended getting another vet out to assess him?

    I'm not sure how others feel but I personally would'nt feel comfortable selling a horse who continued to have questions over his head about his soundness......and there are still obviously questions about something not quite right in the hip/spine area.....which you have suspected from the beginning.

    Whether it is bone, or ligament, arthritis or something else, or whether what continues to be noticed cannot be attributed to health at all, know one will ever know.

    Its hard selling good horses for good money, unfortunately this horse has little education for the average rider as well as consistent travelling issues.

    Hope it all works out.
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2010
  20. Kateee

    Kateee Guest

    If my saddle was pinching me/didn't fit, i'd sure as hell be bucking.
    just a thought.
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