Keeping Colts/Stallions together

Discussion in 'Breeding Horses' started by Sharaway, Mar 4, 2008.

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  1. Sharaway

    Sharaway Guest

    I am interested to know peoples thoughts and experiences on this topic.

    My colt is rising 3 and is predominantly kept on his own but there are plenty of horses around for him to hear/see/talk to etc.

    My GF whose Arab stud he is kept on has a much older resident Stallion who will happily kill any other rival for the ladies attention, however she has 3 new colts on the way, one already here another 2 yet to arrive.

    On the weekend we put her new young bloke in with mine and the two of them mostly did typical colt head and neck wrestling, rearing, biting, pawing, and lots of racing each other around, then after about 30 mins, settled to eat on the same hay roll.

    My GF is very reluctant to keep the boys together yet I am all for it, I have found it far healthier to run the colts and young Stallions together, and even the older Stallions in the off season provided they get on fine together.

    So Stud owners and Stockies, what are your thoughts etc?
     
  2. Remaani

    Remaani Guest

    I like my boys to be well socialised.
    Wether they run with mares, geldings or other colts/stallions.

    My Mini Horse stallion was very dominate & was fine with his girls or a gelding, but not colts if they were roughly breeding age & above (younger, he was fine with)..... he ran with two yearling colts fine.
    He was yarded next door to my Mini Pony stallion, a love/hate relationship. I believe if it was out of breeding season, they could run together as they got in with each other once & apart from a few dominant rearing & eyeing each other off issues, they got down to grazing.

    Jet (as a 2yo) ran with 2 other colts his age, again with a gelding & no dramas.
    As long as there is no constant fighting & they get along generally well, then im all for it.

    I personally dont like having an unsocialised stallion.
     
  3. Sharaway

    Sharaway Guest

    Yep I am 100% with you on that one, I have seen to many Stallions end up dangerous due to being locked up and not socialised.
     
  4. Reigate

    Reigate Well-known Member

    Well, in the past we have had a TB stallion, a mini stallion, a WB gelding and 3 18month old colts all in the same paddock together.... and it worked really well..............

    Had the TB stallion serve a mare - TB went back in paddock with other colts and stallion right away and there was no trouble whatsoever.....

    Easy done........

    Our current stallions that we have here - Bill, the CB, he lives with either his girls or when they come out, with the WB gelding.......

    Baldy, the borrowed B/W stallion, he lives with the girls and foals, or just the foals when weaning them (hes a great weaning partner).......

    Our new stallion will live with his girls when he arrives.......... :) Probably just have one in with him to begin with.......... and be over the laneway from others..........

    We value our stallions, however we dont believe they should live alone....... thats a recipe for problems when they get around other horses...... when they are not socialised they get frustrated, and often take it out on their handlers.........

    I have seen stallions who are kept on their own get quite narky towards anyone who walks in the paddock with them because they KNOW there are girls over the laneways or a couple of paddocks over and they have NO horse company.....

    Our boys have all had impeccable natures and know their place in the herd - they know to respect those higher in the chain than them and personal space - no matter whether its with us or their girls or the geldings...... and not to take it out on the ones lower than them in an unecessary way. They can assert their dominance but they DONT ever get nasty about it....... Just ears back, shake the head and look grumpy for a second.... thats the extent of it..........And certainly NEVER in our direction.... we are above them in their food chain.
     
  5. retroremedy

    retroremedy Well-known Member

    Gee I can see the benefits of stallions being socialised but all stallions in together??? I suppose if you had a massive big paddock with a big herd but gee I could see an increase risk in vet bills and heartache?? Wow, I really wouldnt think that was sensible at all :confused:
     
  6. Remaani

    Remaani Guest

    Do you have stallions RR?

    I know alot of breeders that during the off season, run their entires together with nothing but good reports.

    I havent yet with stallions (just stallions) & i highly likely wouldnt as i havent the room but have ran a few colts together (5 in fact & all were 2yo's, lol), again, nothing but good reports.

    Its all about common sense & making sure theres no temptations for the boys to fight over.
    It works for some, however, not all!
     
  7. Petite Pastures

    Petite Pastures Well-known Member

    I would love to run my boys together as they each live on there own at the moment but they fight badly if they get near each other. Thought about just letting them fight it out but I think I may end up with some damaged goods!!!
     
  8. retroremedy

    retroremedy Well-known Member

    I dont have stallions Remanni but I do have a good dose of commonsense and a bit of knowledge of horse behavior and I have to say keeping your stallions penned up together would be extremely risky business. I can comprehend running mares and stallions and maybe even a tough old gelding but stallions plus stallions :confused: WOW

    I also dont own a crocodile but I can conclude it would probably not be a very good idea to run my sheep in the same enclosure as it.
     
  9. Yarrabah Quarter Horses

    Yarrabah Quarter Horses Well-known Member

    Here here remaani, i totally agree. Running young stallions together is very good and healthy. My QH colt was with my mini stallion for a long while and then he ran with a mare in foal.

    RR a little common sense on all parts and it can work out well.

    Cheers

    Sue**)
     
  10. retroremedy

    retroremedy Well-known Member

    You run a mini and quarter horse and therefore that is your evidence??

    This is not a colt it is 3 years old!
     
  11. Petite Pastures

    Petite Pastures Well-known Member

    LOL I would love to put a crocodile in with my sheep!!!
     
  12. Petite Pastures

    Petite Pastures Well-known Member

    3 years is still a colt, has to be over 4 to be a stallion LOL
     
  13. Arnie

    Arnie Gold Member

    My 1yr old arab colt will be sharing a paddock with our 7 month old shetland colt. But the shetland will be gelded.
    I have also run King with my broodie when she was in foal.
    Although he's still young and not a stallion yet I plan on having him run with infoal mares as much as possible and the little shetty or any other horse thats safe to do so. I'd prefer not to have him shut away but precausions of course will be taken.
     
  14. retroremedy

    retroremedy Well-known Member

    Does the horse know this time to switch?? These are not babies a 3 year old is pumping full of hormones!
     
  15. samm

    samm Gold Member

    It depends entirely on the stallion.Some will some wont.
    I certainly wouldnt do it where they are in a situation to challenge for mares however most stallions do like company under the right circumstances.
    I used to run Prince with a mini and it was funny the way they'd mimic each other.
    In a wild herd situation many colts run in bachelor herds so I dont see a problem with it.
     
  16. Yarrabah Quarter Horses

    Yarrabah Quarter Horses Well-known Member

    So you are putting me on trial now RR - sorry mate not up for your silly little games, was only conveying what had been OK for myself not the whole horse industry sooooooooory - not!*#)
     
  17. Petite Pastures

    Petite Pastures Well-known Member

    I have two 3 year old colts that would probably run together ok and a 4 year old stallion who is a terror to other stallions and babies so has to be kept on his own or with a grumpy older mare.
     
  18. Petite Pastures

    Petite Pastures Well-known Member

    LMAO Zoo ...... :) well said!!
     
  19. retroremedy

    retroremedy Well-known Member

    Did not sound like a personal situation description to me.:confused:
     
  20. samm

    samm Gold Member

    Why dont you agree to disagree?
    Each person has their own opinions on things.I'm sure the original poster will take everything into account before she makes that decision.I think she was asking for peoples experiences/ opinions and people are giving them.
    I dont think there's any need for squabbling over it.
    JMHO
     
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