My TB mare has started propping and today she did it then stuck her head up and got me in the face (nice fat lip now :dry - she thought she was going to gallop up a hill - I had other thoughts. It's my fault. She has no brakes so I was using a kimblewick for a while and she started doing it then. Sometimes I have to really put the handbrake on because I will ask, ask, ask and she just ignores, ignores, ignores until I have to take such a firm hold to get her to wake up (my farrier describes her as "like a ship" - once she starts moving it takes a long time to stop her) So then she props and jams on her brakes because she really feels it and I have nearly come off several times. Usually her head shoots up too but today is the first time she's got me with it. She is a very unresponsive horse - she doesn't pay much attention to me on the ground or in the saddle and she often has a withdrawn look in her eyes when I am trying to work with her. Very frustrating! How can I help the propping issue? I have gone back to a loose ring double jointed snaffle and no noseband, just a plain bridle. I do one rein stops and back her when she gets rushy but it doesn't help - she just goes back to rushy. I have tried small circles to rebalance and slow her but she just rushes around those and then carries on!! GAHHH :confused: (I started a thread a long time ago about pretty much the same issue and was given these very helpfull ideas....but they don't seem to sink into this mares head!) Why do we persevere with horses we don't get along with?! I guess this is mostly just a big long rant because it was such an awful ride today Would like to stop the propping though!