Dealing With Other People's Disrespectful Horses at Events

Discussion in 'Problem Horses' started by Go the Distance, Mar 25, 2013.

  1. Macchiato

    Macchiato Well-known Member

    EC I am sure you will find that it is nothing personal. Due to the litigious times we live in, it seems pretty normal that people like all their boxes ticked. At the end of the day they are giving up their time and I don't think they are on any sort of power trip.
     
  2. wattle6180

    wattle6180 Gold Member

    I haven't met a power-tripping parent at a horse show yet and I do generally spend 90% of my time with parents, not children or teens. But then again I read a lot more on this computer about what allegedly goes on than what I physically see or hear when I am actually attending.

    EC, I have not ever mentioned Gear Checking at an EA event. The very first words I wrote were - At a PC event (which I have now written three times lol) . I haven't seen any gear checks at any of the other disciplines I attend: State Shows, Hack Shows, Campdrafting, etc. I have, however, retrieved loose horses and taken home a horse (with the Owners car & float) after the injured rider had to go to Hospital in the ambulance. All I am saying is that a horse needs to be able to be handled by Strangers to it, if needs be.

    I don't know why the eventing people are taking it as only their sport being discussed ';'
     
    Last edited: Apr 2, 2013
  3. Macchiato

    Macchiato Well-known Member

    My advice to helpers for eventing is put down for the scoring room. It is warm and dry and you get coffee and lots of cake.
     
  4. wattle6180

    wattle6180 Gold Member

    I like the bake a cake option :} Now, having read a few comments twice....ingredients might get inventive :lol::lol:
     
  5. theherd22

    theherd22 New Member

    I am not a regular competitor and always seem to have young horses who are new to competing but I find if I communicate this to both gear checkers and other competitors (if necessary) people are a lot more understanding. They are a bit more circumspect and take a few extra minutes to let my horse get used to them.
     
  6. NaeNae87

    NaeNae87 Well-known Member

    A friend had the bake a cake option... She bought stuff from coles. :(

    I would prefer to actually bake something! My Nutella cupcakes and my Blueberry and White Chocolate cupcakes are pretty epic. We had about 30 at Capel... they didn't make it past Saturday arvo... We all felt sooo sick, but in a good, just eaten too many cupcakes, type of way.. lol

    @)Anyone who is doing draws up for any events that I enter in the future@) - I can cook well!!! I like cooking!! Give me the cake option and both those cupcakes will be included for the judges and organisers!!!! I promise!!!! :lol::)):wub:
     
  7. mav

    mav Well-known Member

    my most embarrassing moment hacking - mav smacking the judge in the head when being presented a ribbon!! we didnt get called in for a single class after that and im fairly sure that was the reason why... since then one of the big things i work on is standing still and just chilling.

    gear checking has not been an issue but yes i have seen a few that i thought the poor gear checker had a fair time checking!!

    im more concerned about the people riding against me that ride right up my bum, cut me off, dont know common sense ettiquite when warming up etc etc
     
  8. wattle6180

    wattle6180 Gold Member

    I do an awesome Mars Bar Slice.....*just saying*. Easier to eat that than pi$$ me off with attitude at a gear check (that you haven't trained your horse to do :p )
     
  9. capnjack

    capnjack Well-known Member

    I've been out of competition for a long time. The last "official" comp I was a part of was a barrel race at a rodeo (no gear check at all other than to check if there was a bridle and saddle), and the last unofficial comp I was a part of was a local ODE where I only rode the XC portion (was not entering to win, only had to pay my insurance and make a donation to the event).

    The gear check for that one was EA, although I knew I had a very green horse so dismounted and requested that they check everything for me. It was a PC mum who did that gear check, and although my poor Irish was a bit confused, my lovely darling hid his head into my shoulder until it was all done.

    He had been used as an escort horse at the trots for two years, so was trained to keep a certain level of calm around craziness, but it was his first time with me at a busy event, and the first time in two years or so around so many other horses.

    it's MY opinion that any horse that can be considered dangerous - fidgeting and excitement allowed to a certain point, but bucking, rearing, kicking out at everything, should be removed from the area.
     
  10. celestialdancer

    celestialdancer Gold Member

    ';'

    My horses all learn that they have to stand still and calmly for a gear check. No matter what stage of an event, or whether it's a rally. Rahni is coldbacked, gear check can be a challenge. Anyone that doesn't know him who checks his girth or slaps his bum or saddle, wrenches down a stirrup can give me a hard time for the next ten minutes! But no matter what, even if he's about to lose the plot, if I say 'stand up', he bloody well stands there!

    Rahni is terrified of jumping, and on sj and xc stages, gear check is a bit harder. So I go there unmounted. Let the gearchecker know he's sensitive, but will stand like a rock, and they're happy.

    I was at a breed show with my highland, she was very miffed about the amount of people in the 'warm up'. Wattle can back me up here, after I got four feet on the ground, I neck twitched her and walked her away. No way was I going to let her behave like that!

    Came back later and she went on to win Supreme. She just needed a reminder who was boss ;)

    I've gearchecked fidgety ponies at events before and unless they are green and young, it's their first outing, I will NOT stand for a fidgety horse. Drives me bonkers!
     
  11. wattle6180

    wattle6180 Gold Member

    And she was an absolute angel the next time out lol **) You just need to have that gorgeous stallion attend everything you do so she shows him her best behaviour :D
     
  12. celestialdancer

    celestialdancer Gold Member

    Hahahaha, she's so fickle!
     
  13. katers93

    katers93 Well-known Member

    As far as I'm concerned...the most important thing we must remember is that horses are flight animals and they are unpredictable. You can't expect perfect etiquette all the time from such an animal.
    My older mare is also pretty quiet generally but usually at gear checks in cross country she was very excited. Unfortunately, training is a skill and some are better at it than others. If a person has difficulty teaching their horse to behave (if it is something that could actually be fixed) or just controlling it, does this mean they should not be allowed to compete?
    Personally, I think if you want to bring rules and regulations into it...I think the EA rules are pretty good...no danger to the gear checker as they don't have to approach the horse and the rider is responsible for their own safety.
     
  14. Horseagilitywa

    Horseagilitywa Well-known Member

    OH HELL YESS!! lol

    Not that I do now, but have in the past, spent alot of time around racehorses (alot), 3 Day eventers.... they do stand still when hot, its in the training..... 3DE types have so many vet checks (in the olden days lol), and replaiting, it was just easier to teach them every stop is a rest break and to use it.
    As a gear checker.... i ask questions and always introduce myself to a horse, while asking the rider about the horse. Calms both down I find as they start talking about the horse and lowers their own heart rate, helps the horse lower theirs to some extent.
    I wont let a horse go out with out checking gear properly as I don't want to be held liable.
    I have a friend who has been smashed up do to a stirrup leather breaking, she missed the loose stitching. Gear checker didn't even get close, not gear checkers fault in the slightest, and my friend knows this but.... some other people.....
     
  15. La Dolce Vita

    La Dolce Vita Active Member

    I find a personal 'duty of disclosure' helps a lot in these situations. I tell people what, if anything, irks my horse (e.g. kicking, no belly-tickles, etc) and once they have the information, it is up to them what they do with it. 99.9% of people say 'thankyou' and act accordingly, .1% seem to see it as a challenge. And good luck to them :rolleyes:

    I agree with the earlier comment that etiquette should be taught at riding schools. It also needs to be taught that a red ribbon in the tail does not mean "get as close as you possibly can, prefereably at speed". Sheesh.
     

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