Then why is this most of what i see when i go to a dressage comp.? Almost all of our lower level horses at TBs. And almost all Olympic standard dressage horses are warmbloods. Almost everyone is riding the same breed horse. Yep, totally agree. But this is what is being taught and done because getting the head in seems to be a priority. I'm not hiding anywhere. And i'm not bitching about it. I'm just putting my point of view across of what i see. I'm sorry if i offended anyone. I don't blindly follow any method. I don't think most people do. I prefer this to modern dressage because i see it as better for the horse, based on what i have seen, read and taught. And yes, i have strong feelings about modern dressage, because i don't agree with the techniques. And i get passionate when discussing it and modern dressage. But don't for a second think i am that blind that if i see something with classical dressage i don't like, that i will defend it and still do it just because it's classical dressage. (i havne't found that yet, but just saying for eg) To me, the end does not justify the means. Yes we all want light, happy horse. What's important is how we get there. And what we end up with will differ according to what training you use.