Animal Attacks

Discussion in 'News Items' started by beccy, Jul 18, 2002.

  1. Darume

    Darume Well-known Member

    I haven't yet beccy but I will be sure to let you know if I do.. So far all we have had go missing is chooks and ducks... Mind you we have 2 (used to have 3 until recently) dogs that would scare most things off..

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  2. JessiTrist

    JessiTrist Well-known Member

    Animal Attcks are pretty bad... I hate dog owners who let their dogs get away with stuff like that, tho most owners probably dont know

    ~To ride a horse is to borrow freedom...~
     
  3. arylin

    arylin Well-known Member

    I was chatting to a friend at the Royal the other day she lives in Gidgie and apparently has recently lost a stunning shetland Colt foal to a dog attack. The foal was killed and eaten by a mastiff X (I think she said) the neighbour shot it when he saw it attacking his sheep. There is nothing they can do about the loss of the pony as they didn't see the dog attack it.
    What a horrible thing to happen and what about the damn owners. Dog owners need to be held more responsible for their animals actions even if the animal was not seen actually attacking the foal. DNA tests would prove that he was the culprit and the owners should be made accountable for the expenses incurred in vet fees and the loss of the animals attacked if at all possible
     
  4. Arnie

    Arnie Gold Member

    Oh My God thats discusting. Lately I'm getting sick and tired of dog owners. I see so many roaming free around the horsey area's and have had a couple chase my horse while we are out riding. Its extremely dangerous! On that bit...if you out on a ride and a dog chases your horse, is there anything legal you can do or do you just have to leave the dog alone? Although Arnie doesn't hang around long enough for me to get a good aim at the dog if I was to carry a gun one day! (jokes about the gun)...

    ~§Arnie§~
     
  5. leeb

    leeb New Member

    If I am out riding and I am approached by dogs I usually turn the horse towards the dogs if they look threatning.
    Maybe canter toward them if they dont back off.
    I find this works most time but must admit I havent come across a mastiff or other really dangerous breeds.
    I think I would bolt the other direction.
    Cheers
     
  6. Nikiwink

    Nikiwink Well-known Member

    We agisted some of my show cows at our neighbours last year and got the call early in the morning that they had all bolted straight thru two fences adn one of my heifers had gashes all over her. Also my neighbours two horses had been spooked and bolted thru a ringlock gate (lukily only minorcuts and bruises).
    basically one of their other neighbours (who have done this before) "forgot" to lock their dogs up again.
    the only thing we could do was get the ranger out (no proof so no cops). once he heard that my heifer alone was worth $3000 he became very interested and spoke to the dogs owner (again).

    Because of this (and the dog owner is only neighbour with big dogs within about 3km) we will shoot any dog that comes onto our place. We breed Dexter cattle which are worth alot but cause their small they have tiny calves (about20kg - our smallest was 11kg), which if the cow aint there will easily get killed - though the cows are that protective they (as the mob) will have a go at any dog on our place too.

    :) Nikiwink :)
     
  7. Telstar

    Telstar New Member

    Murr.. i did notice that at this years Blackwood Marathon in the horse area no dogs were sposed to be permitted but i saw heaps around..0.o if a horse got attacked there in crowds like that there would be mayhem.. im glad i live out in an isolated area.. no dogs cept ours for a long way..and the dogs that are around are used to cattle and horses and wouldnt think of going near them unless commanded..Thankfully!
    Hope everyones horses stay safe!
    ~Telstar.

    <sub> Telstar is mah big baby! *huggles</sub>
     
  8. appylover

    appylover New Member

    most dog owners in bridgetown are very reasponible they always chain their dogs up and make them sit while i am riding past and i always say thank you and tat sorta stuff so they will do it again if they meet me again.
    lucey is not afraid of dogs she has kicked a couple of dogs because they tried chasing her usually i carry a hip with me just incase of dog attack to defend myself if i get chucked but usually it is alright down here not too many loose dogs.[​IMG]
    ilka and lucey
     
  9. Naomi

    Naomi Well-known Member

    I've been riding Josh alone and had a dog come up to me, biting at his heels. I've found the best way to deal with it is to growl at the dog loudly but ensure your horse knows your not yelling at him. I stroke Josh as Im doing it then he's fine. Just remember if your horse bolts, with or without your consent, all dogs will chase. Stand your ground and stay on your horse because they have hindlegs! Make a racket too then the owners might come out and help.

    This is easy for me coz my horse is very trusting, i sympathise with people who's horses would get upset by this sort of behaivour from their owners!

    Also, we lost 10 sheep, a goat and my parents were attacked my Rodeshian Ridgebacks in Henley Brook. Thank god my dad is a dog person and knew how to stand up to them. His jumper was still ripped to shreds though. I have never known such aggressive dogs.

    The owners lived two houses down and never took responsibility. My dad and the neighbour sat out at night for 3 months with a gun to catch the b#$tards but they sensed they were there. Just remember it is your legal right to shoot any dog that enters your property and harrasses your stock. All this time I had my horses shod simply to give them more defence.

    "It is often said that if a dog is a man's best friend, then a horse is a man's best slave."
     
  10. Tam

    Tam Well-known Member

    As much as i sympathise with those of you who have stray dogs wander onto your property you are NOT within your rights to shoot them. You need to contact your local council or ranger because if you shoot someone elses dog it is not classed as humane and would be an offence under the animal welfare act. While i realise there are many irresponsible owners out there that allow their dogs to wander, what about a family dog who accidentally gets out (which can happen) and goes onto someone elses property? CALL THE RANGER!!!!
     
  11. Gamby

    Gamby Well-known Member

    Agreed Tam....but their has been one too many times that our animals...not the horses thankfully! have been attacked and you cant stand their and watch them be mauled! Obviously if they are wandering then call the Ranger but if they are attacking animals then maybe you have to take matters into your own hands, and by no means would want to hurt another animal but desperate times sometimes require desperate measures!
    Its either them or you stock...i know what id rather!

    Gamby
     
  12. Kari

    Kari New Member

    ARGHHHHHHHHH! Please dont say that a dog is a "dangerous breed". A dog is only as good as its owners. Dont blame the dog.....blame the owner!!!!!!! I have never come across a vicious dog that comes from a family that puts in the time and effort a dog requires. The Mastiff breeds (Bull, Neopolitan etc) are the most loving gentle, but very huge dogs you will come across.
     
  13. Tam

    Tam Well-known Member

    Gamby, if another dog was attacking one of my animals please don't think that i would go inside to call the ranger!! Obviously those sets of circumstances are different and you must do what you feel is necesary but shooting strays who wander onto a property is not on!!
     
  14. arylin

    arylin Well-known Member

    My new neighbours have two large dogs that have already had a go at the cow and i have made it very clear to him that if they venture onto our property at any time I will shoot them. Luckily they haven't moved in fully yet and so far the dogs have stayed on their side but I would not hesitate to protect my ponies or their young foals.
    We live on rural land and it is well known that if you allow your dog to wander you run the risk of a local farmer shooting them whether they are causing trouble or not.
     
  15. BeccaBoo

    BeccaBoo Well-known Member

    This is my dog encounter story...
    I was riding with my friend down to a riding school. I was on my 12.2hh pony and my friend was on a shetland....she was slightly too big for him lol. We had taken the shetty with us because my pony had become nervous of trucks because in wanneroo i know most of you will have noticed how inconsiderate truckies are. They drive past going 70-80 km. Antway we were walking up a street off Caporn Rd and these 2 HUGE rodesian (sp?) ridgebacks came out of a property and were growling and snarling at my pony and the shetland. i gave the whip to my friend on the shetty, i thought she would need it more ( to take a few good swings at them. My pony had a decent pair of hind legs). But these dogs wouldnt let us go, we were shouting out abuse (i dont think ive ever sworn so much...and i was only 13) to the dogs because i was so scared for my pony. Finally the lady over the road from the dogs 'house' came and told them to go. We finally left un hurt. but things could have gotten VERY nasty had the lady from across the road come to our rescue. The funny thing is on the way back, i was extremely nervous. The dogs had thankfully been locked up but i had other worries!!! Our 'rescuers' kids were having a birthday party and of ALL the things that could have been found on the side of the road...they had a bouncy castle. I had to laugh, my pony just looked at it as if to say "What did i do to deserve this???' he wasnt actually that fussed about it strangely enough!

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  16. sherreem

    sherreem Well-known Member

    as a stock owner you have the right and the duty to protect your stock.

    when we lived in baldivis we had a dog over the road to us that only came onto our place at lambing time. he didnt worry the ewes but waited for them to lamb then he would take and kill the babies.

    we warned the owner on numerous occassions about the dog but all he would say was "NO my dog wouldnt do that", he never saw it happen.

    by the time u ring the ranger and if by some chance he isnt already out on a job and he does get to u that same day then the very big chance is that the dog is no longer there and gone home.

    we threaten to shoot the dog the next time, and warned the owner of this. unfortunatley for us the next time the dog got twin lambs and by the time hubby got the rifle it had started heading for home so he tried to shoot it and missed (kept following it with bullets) till it left our property, (not allowed to shoot them on the neighbouring property).

    forturnately tho the dog did go missing, and we got the blame for it and the abuse from the owner but found out weeks later the guy down the road shot it as he had been having the same problems with his goats having their babies.

    wouldnt hesitate to shoot any animal caught on our place that wasnt supposed to be there!!!!

    sherree
     
  17. Eicyng

    Eicyng Well-known Member

    We have a shoot first ask questions later policy on our place, The only dogs allowed are mine.
    We have lost calves in the past & I will not risk losing a foal to a dog!
    [purple]Cheers Eicyng[/purple]

    "My treasures do not clink together or glitter; They gleam in the sun and neigh in the night."
    -Arabian Proverb
     
  18. Arnie

    Arnie Gold Member

    Beccaboo the last thing you should do is scream and shout, and swing at angry dogs. The wise thing to do is halt your horse and talk calmly to your horse and the dogs and if able quietly walk passed them or around them...if you shout it will make the dogs more furious and the chances of attack is greater, also dogs don't understand swear words...

    Sarah


    ~All time is wasted what is not spent with horses.~
     
  19. BeccaBoo

    BeccaBoo Well-known Member

    Yeah. You're right Arnie, but i wasnt shouting at the dogs. I was calling for help, and trying to call the owner of the dogs, cause i could see him around the side of his house ignoring us completely! We did try at first to just ignore them and keep the ponies calm, but they wouldnt leave us alone.

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